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Old 08-05-2009   #1
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Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

I had the great opportunity to test ride the new Thunderbird this past Tuesday. I'm not in the "must have" market for a new bike just now, as I have "helped" (meaning I pay, they ride) my two sons purchase bikes in 2008, then again this year, so I'm the proud owner of three bikes until they pay me back. I know they will, so no problem, and it's nice to ride with them all the time. Anyway... I'm torn right now between a new Road King, and ... something else.

First off, a big $#@&% to the Illinois Highway folks, for shutting down route I23, and creating a bizzare and wasteful "Detour" that takes one roughly 40 miles off route. Inconsiderate, taxpayer money wasting Morons. Oddly, neither Mapquest nor Google knew this. Should have used the wifes GPS!

Anyway, arrived about 1/2 hour late, but no problem. All road testing was done with my wife riding pillion. We ride from 11:00 Am untill 3:30 Pm with a half hour lunch-break, over a ton of country twisties as well as about two miles or so of big slab just for kicks. Here goes.

1.) The bike is absolutely beautiful. This one is in Gloss Black, as my choice would be, and is very nice to look at. Chrome and finish are faultless, as would be expected of Triumph, fit and finish excellent. Shows like a much, much more expensive bike. We sat at a window during lunch, and all passers by stopped and had a second look, even obvious non-riders. Excellent pose value.
2.) The key is in a convenient position, and easy to reach - take note, Bonneville design staff!
3.) Speedo has a "function" feature that changes to different Trip Odometers, and all sorts of other options. Nice. The Speedo Background is sort of "old Skool" tan with white and black numerals, looks great.
4.) EFI bike starts instantly on the button, idles smooth - well, for a 270 degree bike anyway. Sound with the shorty pipes is a tad above my taste, but those inclined to such things will love it. You hear the pipes up to about 50, then the sounds levels out and weakens.
5.) Torque, torque, and more torque. This bike had the "Shorty" pipes on, and still had more torque than any sane person would ever need on a public highway. Zero to sixty faster than you can look down at the Speedo to see where your at. Sixty to 95 very, very quickly. No stop watch or instruments handy, but speedwise, or passing wise, you'll never have any problems whatsover with this bike.
6.) This bike reminds me of a guy maybe named "Sven" from "World's Strongest Man" competition hoisting a cup of tea. Loads of torque, 100 ft./lbs., and it's usable... and you can feel it. A 4 cyl Honda CBR or a Hyabusa will seem very busy, hard working and twitchy by comparison, even though they might have the high RPM Horsepower. This is more like a Clydesdale mated to a Thoroughbred on Steroids.
7.) I only had her up to 95, as the Dealer noted to me it only had 42 miles on it, and asked me to "take it easy", which I did respectfully. Speedo says "120" tops, but you would swear she could do way more. We'll see.
8.) For a 750 pound or so bike, this one handles extremely easily, is very, very easy to ride, and feels from the seat like a much lighter bike. I'll opine that the center of gravity is strategically low, seat height is low at 27", tires are wide, handlebars are waaaay wide (Like Texas Longhorns!), and obviously the Triumph Design Engineers did a great job in balancing things out.
9.) Handling is... I'll say 8 out of 10? Handles well though some twisties, leans over well, the footpads and pegs are mounted forward and high, so you'll scrape the exhaust silencers before most anything else. I don't think folks will buy it for road-racing, so maybe that's a moot point, but she'll lean and whatever anyway. In a tight, suburban mall parking lot where we went for lunch, she handled very easily at slow, turtle-ish speeds. Must be the low center of gravity again. Nice.
10.) Motor is not even trying on this bike. No worries ever about stressing out this engine, as it seems to barely even raise a pulse as you go. Although I didn't try it, I have no doubt you could leave a nice long strip of rubber, then "chirp" the tires through each gear as you approach 80 or so. Very nicely done Engineering on this one. Good job.
11.) Dealer told me (I haven't verified it, so hold off on the flaming!!) that this has the heaviest crank counterweights and flywheel of it's class, and this was to smooth out the engine, and balance things. That explains the smoothness, and the low down torque, but this thing accelerates like a bike with a much lighter rotating mass. Must be the breathing, and/or overall good design. I did notice that she DE-cellerates a little slow though, but maybe it's just me. Anyone else experience this?
12.) The shorty pipes had a very nice tone to them, which encourages fast accelerating, and what-not general hooliganism, so maintaining a good fuel economy will be achievable only by those possessing extreme self control.
13.) Rider comfort in the cushy riders seat is great, far forward foot pegs / pads are an acquired taste I guess. Obviously many like 'em that way, so great.
14.) All in all, a fantastic bike, hard to find fault. The feel is of... "Strength", and effortless momentum. Engine is barely breaking a sweat, and gearing is such that cruising at 65 turns the motor at a leisurely 2500 rpm or so in 6th. I would buy one in an instant, if I were in the market right now.
15.) Mind you, the entire test run was done with my wife riding pillion, so imagine a solo run! VERY IMPRESSIVE.

No report would be complete without some "con's", so here goes, although they are ALL subjective, and a matter of opinion / personal taste.

A.) Standard Pillion seat is horrid. Dealer noted this was standard, and you can upgrade to a better seat ($$$$). Unless your significant other looks like Olive Oyl, you'll need a bigger seat (on the bike!)
B.) Handlebars are too wide, maybe an inch or so less on each end, and too small in diameter. On a brutish bike like this, I would expect heavier (thicker) bars. Obviously just a personal thing. Increase the chrome bar diameter say about 1/8 to 1/4 inch to match the strong torque laden feel of the remainder of the bike.
C.) Lastly, I hate the headlight housing! Again, a matter of taste, but I would prefer an "old skool" roundish housing as on the Bonneville. The headlight looks too "Rocketeer" 1950's space age to me. It is such a predominant focus point when you are in the riding position, so it should be perfect. Again - strength, power, torque.. not pointy rockets, IHMO!!!

There... not too bad. Anyway, we were both very, very impressed, and yes, I'd buy one in a heartbeat but I'm three bikes in three years right now, so I'd have to sell one to buy another to be realistic. I may... we'll see.

Beautiful bike. If Triumph were smart (read treacherous), and less ethical, they would ride around Harley dealers blocks all day on these, and they would take away at least 70% of the customers. Tremendous value for the asking price. My dealer quoted USD $12,499 MSRP base.



Cheers,

Bob

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Old 08-05-2009   #2
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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

Damn good report! These bikes look much better in person than in pics, didn't care for them to much till I saw one in the flesh. Sounds like it has won you over. I say go for it.
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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

Thanks Speed.

It is a beautiful bike. No doubt in my mind that this is a great move for Triumph, and those that buy them will be happy.

Being the eternal pessimist and sceptic though, I'll add a few comments.

For my use and taste, I'd add a windshield, some saddlebags, and much better pillion seat and sissy bar for starters. Add all this all up, and we're getting close to HD Road King prices. Just a point.

This Thunderbird for 2010 is the first year of a new release design. Usually, field use reveals a few faults, which are resolved for years 2 and 3. Just a point.

Do I really need 100 Ft.Lbs of torque? Probably not. Just a point.

Lastly, I'm seriously looking for a bike that my wife and I can ride from here to say the Grand Canyon and back... in maximum long range comfort. This requires a full blown "Touring" bike, not a "Cruiser".

Lastly, if Triumph had a means to professionally transform this "cruiser" into a touring bike - much like the Rocket III has a specific "Tourer" classification model - I would jump in a nano-second. 1600 CC's is plenty, and the bike has that same lazy, effortless feeling as a HD Tourer, so why not.

It IS really a fabulous bike. Go test ride one today, you'll love it.

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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

I had the Swiss press demo unit on loan to me last August, the Rocket III having already found a firm buyer. I test rode it , was truly impressed (for the same reasons as discussed below), and wanted to order one right away. But I was told they would not be available until Jan. 2010. And since I badly wanted a new bike, I bought a 2009 V-Max instead. Which, as reported elsewhere on this forum, now rots in a wreck yard.

Then... Triumph called up and told me they had one blue'n white unit scheduled to arrive in early December. I asked them so set it aside for me.

Then... I collected a check from my insurance company for the full value of the V-Max. And the T'Bird price is "only" two thirds of that.

(What a strange way to save money)

So, I placed a firm order for said blue'n white unit earler this month. I'll take delivery of it with the dealer-installed 1700cc kit, TOR pipes (the long ones), the associated re-mapping, heavy-duty clutch springs (REQUIRED with the large bore engine, BTW) and blue (vs. black) radiator covers.

Why did I order the 1700cc kit (?), one may wonder: Well coming from a 200HP V-Max and a tuned Rocket III worth 170 HP, I felt the standard engine rated @ 85 HP was a bit... er... uncomplimentary

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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

I'll admit that particular bike looks better than the initial photos I've seen. Honestly, I haven't stepped foot in a Triumph Dealer in some time, but plan to do so this week (took some time off).

It's also going to take me some time to get over the "Thunderbird" model description, but I can handle it
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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

Weather permitting, I should take delivery of it next week!

And I'd like to find a nick name for it. The 675 Street Triple was "la petite" (the lil' -female- one in French), the Rocket was "the green machine" ....

Any suggestion appreciated

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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

See her pic here in the photo album>Triumph. I arguably chose the very same shooting spot as that of the now defunct V-Max of mine.

The T'Bird is a superb mount, I say.

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Nice looking ride.
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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

Very sharp looking bike. I like the Blue/White combo. Based on what I know about the T-Bird, you're going to love it. Best of luck... and slow down!




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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Test Ride, 04 August

Ok, I'm starting to get warmed up to the new Thunderbird.

Very Nice Machine Jamie!
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