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Old 07-23-2010   #1
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Reference the Cycle World August 2010 Issue:

1/4 Mile Elapsed Times:

Triumph Thunderbird 13.24 seconds

Triumph Bonneville 13.24 Seconds

0 to 60 MPH times:

Triumph Thunderbird 4.7 seconds

Triumph Bonneville 4.9 Seconds

Looks pretty even to me, and is a great kudo to Triumph, as these T-Bird times are extemely competitive (if not the best!) in the Cruiser world.

Also, this puts to rest to inane comments on another popular Triumph forum by their self-proclaimed (ordained?) 'Expert' - a Bonneville owner - who proclaimed the new Thunderbird to be; "a "Pig", and a slow, heavy machine with a motor that s**ks."

Seems to me that according to these tests - and I cannot think of a better, more unbiased means of scientific comparison - the T-Bird would be ever so slightly faster than the Bonneville, so let's call 'em even, stock for stock.

As mentioned a few (?) months ago, I took a full afternoon test ride on the T-Bird, with the wife aboard, and it's a fantastic ride.

Remember that proverbial "grain of salt" with which to take whilst perusing these Internet 'Expert' comments and opinions. Solid data always trumps loudmouthed, unfounded opinions.

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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Truths

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Also, this puts to rest to inane comments on another popular Triumph forum by their self-proclaimed (ordained?) 'Expert' - a Bonneville owner - who proclaimed the new Thunderbird to be; "a "Pig", and a slow, heavy machine with a motor that s**ks."
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He simply does not have enough dough to afford a T'Bird, one would surmise

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He simply does not have enough dough to afford a T'Bird, one would surmise

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I'm not 100% certain that personal finance alone is the real reason, but maybe so.

What I've found is that many hopelessly insecure types have a burning need to attempt to force a "class" structure, or construct "levels" of class distinction, this being the only means they can fabricate to artificially elevate themselves amoung peers.

Alert and experienced riders will remember well when motorcyling was "the great equalizer" and all riders mutually respected each other, regardless of whatever one did outside the biking world, or what type, model, year, or whatever bike you rode, etc. Petty, small-minded guys such as this would have been beaten to a pulp and/or avoided at all costs.

We see this all over, not just in the motorcycling world. Private clubs, VIP lounges, "Elite" status this 'n that - you get the picture. Oddly, this "class structure" is what the USA rebeled against in part during the Revolutionary War - now many disillusioned and confused Americans are falling over themselves to create a distinction of classes once again. A Wall Strret criminal, hedging and playing dangerous, risky games with the economic structure, forces millions of American citizens out of their homes and workplaces, but is considered a "Success", and "Wealthy" by weak, like minded souls. A new low in civilizations history, but sadly real.

Fun Fact to ponder: No civilization has ever been able to pull itself out of, nor survive an festering period of "decadence", which utimately results near the end of an era. (See: Roman Empire, Greek History, Mayan, Aztec, etc.)

Uh-Oh!

IMHO, the introduction of the T-bird was a very bold move on Triumph's part, risking the wrath of the loyal Bonneville America and Speedmaster owners, as well as some Rocket III owners. It may have been unbelievably strategic, introducing a high quality, high performance, beautifully crafted big cruiser just as the "King" - Harley Davidson - was losing many "lifestyle" members who suddenly woke up - startled but well - to reality.

From the lowly Bonneville perspective, it was the bike so many disillusioned bonny modders had been trying desperately to achieve for years, but sadly on another model! Man instinctively mocks and jeers at that which he fears, and cannot comprehend.

I've noted a certain level of distain for the T-Bird on many Triumph Forums, which I guess is expected. Time will heal those wounds. In the end, it's a great bike, and from what I can see, the critics are usually those that haven't ridden nor viewed one!

Ride Safe!

Bob

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Re: Triumph Thunderbird Truths

I was impressed by the new Thunderbird during my one-on-one opportunity to see-touch-sit at the dealer in Tulsa. There was a die-hard Bonnie rider having a serious purchasing discussion with a salesperson while I was there.

However, my mind kept wandering over to traditional cruiser atmosphere. There were some Indians close by, and would you take one of these to BB-BBQ or Sturgis?

My reality check was also mired in my continued disgust for anything that bears the Thunderbird name and doesn't use a 883cc triple.
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BB-BBQ or Sturgis?

My reality check was also mired in my continued disgust for anything that bears the Thunderbird name and doesn't use a 883cc triple.
A bit too prone to sentimentalism, are we not?

The Thunderbird name has long been revered by native Americans as a symbol of power... long branded by Ford for some of its coupes and convertibles... long christened by Gibson for some of its premium electric guitars and basses... long used by a world-renowned, US business school as its own, official corporate identity, etc.

If only all these shady, Thunderbird name-bearing parties had found some rational use for a 883cc triple. Just one unit.

Just to allay your rancour

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