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Old 07-30-2009   #1
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Harley Davidson Business IQ

A few weeks ago, I posted the 2Q 2009 Harley Davidson Financial details, and blarbed out some negative remarks about their business savvy.

Here's a reversal. In my daily / weekly rides, I pass three local HD Dealerships. What I have noticed lately is:
  • Events or get togethers of some sort every weekend, at all three.
  • Runs, originating from all three, with outdoor entertainment, tents, refreshments etc.
  • Advertised deals and discounts on clothing and accessoroes.
  • A big push in the media for femaie riders, and female oriented gear, clothing accessories.
  • All the attendees (yes... "all") wearing HD jackets, shirts, doo-rags, gloves, etc.
What does this all mean. I don't have to agree with the "lifestyle" stuff - and no doubt HD could care less if I do or not - but this is obviously a great revenue generator, and much more than any local Triumph dealer is doing. That said, I also pass Honda, Suzuki, and a Victory dealerships, and the lots are totally empty.

My point has more to do with overall "motorcycling enthusiasm" than marketing. Example: The local Norton Motorcycle Owners Club is having a show at a local HD Dealer August 9th. So much for "Brit-Bike" loyalty! You would imagine that the show could have been at a local Triumph Dealership at least??

All that said, I can appreciate the work it takes to organise these runs and events, and if HD Dealerships are willing to go the extra mile, Good for 'em say I.

Now... if they would just lower the MSRP's a tad.....

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Re: Harley Davidson Business IQ

Cycle World and Motorcyclist do plenty of H-D Bashing, but one can't disregard the amount of activity that takes place at our local dealership. The mags write terrible reviews about the Buell (that are mostly accurate), but they are still fun to ride.

Time will tell if it turns the company around though, but I've got faith.
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I have faith too. Besides, it's not GM (Government Motors) or Chrysler/Fiat.

They (HD) slid a long way toward oblivion in a less than stellar economy but they do have a loyal (but aging) following. We shall see.

Besides, HD has to keep the Pacific Rim sweatshops going by turning out HD authorized clothing and water buffalo leather jackets.....

It's a world economy you know.
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Re: Harley Davidson Business IQ

Here's an official Announcement for That Norton Show this coming Sunday, August 9th.

Chicago Norton Owners Club

Again, note that it's at a Harley Dealership. There is a Triumph dealership roughly 5 miles away... somebody was sleeping!

Anyway, a fun thing to do on a sunny Sunday afternoon. We'll be there!

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Yesterday (Sunday, August 9th) my wife and I rode the Triumph eastward over to see the Norton Show. About a 1.5 hour ride through some nice country roads, so not bad at all.

Hot, hot, hot... 98 degrees here yesterday, extremely muggy and humid. Great riding, just don't stop!

Arrived at 11:00. Show was 9:00 am to 2:00 PM.

Fantastic. There were a dozen or so old Nortons, one 1953 Vincent (I think this is the same one you always see at the Cycle World Show in February). Triumphs, BSA's (Bsa Victor 441!), a few stray Yamaha's from the 70's (Classic? Hmmm.), etc. A beautiful "53 Triumph Thunderbird in Light Blue.

Also... two fantastic old 1950's BMW's with the coolest OEM sidecars you could imagine. Bright red paint, sort of an 'Art Deco" look, and 100% immaculate.

One Swedish bike, and a very odd '50's Harley Motor Scooter with sidecar. Very Unique. Lot's of real and also some replica Cafe racers style bikes, and about three Triumph 70's style choppers (ugh!)

Sadly, it was EXTREMELY hot, so we kind of rushed through the show, then sought shelter inside the Air Conditioned Harley Dealership (Zylstra's, St. Charles Illinois). Oddly, they were open Sunday. In Illinois, we have what's called a "Blue Law", that prohibits selling motor vehicles on a Sunday. Sort of a religious / puritanical thing I think. Not 100% sure.

Anyway, maybe you can be open, but you just can't sell any vehicles until Monday? We looked around, and WOW. There is not one single bike in the showroom for under $18,000. Most are $21,000 and up. Granted, these are all gussied up chrome queen, accessory laden bikes, but wow. One was $33,499... for a bike!

Back to reality, we noticed - and I mentioned this in a previous post - that the dealership was absolutely packed to the rafters, hundreds of people, and all the women (and... many men!) had shopping bags full of HD clothing, accessories, etc. These dealers are very savvy. Good on 'em for having the sense to allow shows - British Bike shows at that! - to "bring 'em in", and sell a couple a Thou worth of trinkets on a Sunday. Smart.

Bad news? No pics. We actually had the camera in my tank bag, but it was so bloody hot and uncomfortable, we kind of rushed through the ogling of the bikes part. My wife is not a real fan of the vintage bikes, maybe a 25% interest factor? So 'note to self', next time I'll go with my son's, or solo.

There were about 6 or 7 new Hinckley Triumph's in the parking area, which is actually the first time I've actually seen a Hinckley Triumph Bonneville in public 'round here since March of 2007 when I bought this one. I can see plenty up in Southern Wisconsin by my dealers and on various runs, but never here in illinois. This is "Harley Country" for sure. Must be something in the water.

Worth mention: There were also about a dozen newer Harleys lined up in the show for some reason. Now, I love bikes, love gawkin' at 'em, but...

Seems like Harley competition is all about "who has the most accessories"? I mean - what creativity does it take to purchase and have installed various hardbag guards, trunk lid luggage racks, aditional lighting kits, etc. Also - to me - at what point do you just chuck it all and buy a small convertible top car? Most of these big dressers have more comfort accessories and doo-dads than my Miata!! I can easily see the Automatic Transmission coming very soon.

Great show, beautiful old vintage bikes. Boring Harleys. Good people. Over-priced expensive gaudy, silly new Harleys to muse over.

A Grand Day Out.

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There is an 'automatic' of sorts for HD's, already. Been on the market for about 4 years. It's for challenged people that can't chew gum and ride a bike but wanna be cool. www.rekluse.com

Actually, I'd like to have a Rekluse in my KLR because it eliminates clutching. It's the original design that Nev Lush copied and modified to fit the R3. Nev's high performance lockup clutch is for those who want to not worry about high horsepower clutch slippage.

Basically what happens is the stainless balls travel in machined lateral raceways...ball milled slots that taper one way on the outside clutch disc and opposite on the pressure plate. Centrifugal force causes the balls the move outward and apply pressure to the clutch pack. It's the same principle as a centrifugal go kart clutch where springs hold the shoes off the drum until the RPM of the crankshaft overcome the springs and the shoes move outward and contact the outer drum and propel the go kart. But, there are no springs, just the balls and the faster it spins the harder it pushes on the clutch pack.

Like the original Rekluse, Nev's Lockup Clutch is the same, The higher the RPM, the harder the pressure plate squeezes the clutch pack unlike a spring or diaphragm pressure plate where the friction is a constant value, applied by the spring set or diaphragm.

If it has to do with suck, squeeze, bang and blow, it's been done before.

I have insomina. Too much hay chaff I guess, so, a little techinical dissertation this morning.
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