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Old 06-26-2010   #1
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what motorcycle to take ?

I am new with motorcycles .
I'm driving a car without accidents or speed tickets for 20 years now and would like to become a moto-rider.
I'm not sure what motor to take, my 2 fav are
BMW R1200 RT (abs, full option)
Honda Deauville (abs- full option)

some say it's best to start with a heavy moto (bmw) , others say the deauville (700 cc) wil be the perfect guide to enter the motorcycle world.

Who can help me out ?
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Old 06-26-2010   #2
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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

I would recommend the Honda if these are the only choices. The BMW would be much to heavy as a first bike. Also when you drop your bike, (which will happen) it will be less expensive to repair the Honda. Learn how to ride the small bike well, then you can step up to the bigger BMW with more confidence.
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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

If those were the only two options that would make you happy, go with the smaller cc bike.

Another consideration would be to ride a pre-owned motorcycle for a while. Something that doesn't cost much, and wouldn't cause you much anxiety if it were damaged.

Developing your riding skills can be very enjoyable; but I've known new riders who were agonized by the experience due to purchasing expensive and/or powerful machines as their first motorcycle.

New riders also learn more about their preferences during the experience. In other words, you may prefer a different type of motorcycle after a few months.

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Old 06-27-2010   #4
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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

Thanks guys.
I really consider the Deauville.
Most of the 2nd hand motorcycles are sold by private persons and as an independent I don't want to pay the vat.
When buying a new bike I don't need to pay the vat and the bike will be 100% deductible in my bookkeeping.
There is a small (but important rule) in our legal system.
A motorcycle can be brought into account over 5 year period.
Because I am the owner of the company I can buy the motorcycle as a private person from my company for the value it is worth in my bookkeeping. And yes, after 5 years the motorcycle is worth .. euh .. 0 !
If I then sell it, I sell it as a private person , get all the money in private hands , and I don't need to pay taxes or vat or ... on it.
The buyer however can not deduct the vat either.
Thats why most motorcycles are sold out of private hands.
You can sell somthing you didn't buy (correction bought for 0). Always nice !!!
If for some reason the motorcycle needs to be repaired, the costs are also 100% deductible (even helmet, vest, boots gloves , ... are deductible for the whole 100%)


thanks guys !

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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

I second Shawn's post below. I'd personally recommend:

1) a good, second-hand bike (say 1 to 2 year-old)
2) lighter and more nimble than the ones you have in mind
3) lending itself to city traffic/commuting without being adverse to long-distance rides
4) lending itself to the installation of bags, a touring screen, etc. if you have such rides in mind.

A mint/low mileage '08 or '09... Triumph Bonneville would thus be my pick (fuel injected, preferably). Triumph dealers (over here, at least) seem to have a few Bonnies on hand, often traded-in for a new Thunderbird or a new America, at times with a warranty on them. And Triumph has a vast catalogue of dedicated touring accessories.

Finally, given the fact that the riding season has (at long last!) started , these dealers seem to be a bit flexible price-wise.

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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

I'll Third Shawn's and Spped's excellent suggestions, and Second Jamie's fantastic Triumph idea... with a slight caveat.

I too have seen far too many guys buy big, expensive, heavy bike's (or tempermental "exotics") as their first ride, then quit in disgust because they can't "make it happen" like they saw on TV somewhere! In the USA, there are thousands of super low mileage big bikes available... for this - and other - reasons.

Buy something lighter, comfortable and easy to manuever for your first ride. The "Cruiser" style bikes (Triumph America, Speedmaster) are the easiest to ride, as the center of gravity and seat height are super low to the ground. This is why you see so many women and beginners these days riding "Cruiser" bikes - low seat, low CoG. In a few years, you can trade up if you wish, or sideways, or whichever direction you may choose.

The Bonneville is an excellent choice as well, but for a "beginner" bike, IMHO the middleweight / lightweight "Cruiser" style is easiest to learn on. America's and Speedmasters are plentiful on the second hand market, and reasonably priced right now. Lots of Honda's and Yamaha's in the "Cruiser" type mode as well. After say a year of riding this first bike, you'll feel more comfortable, and at ease with riding, and by then you'll have a clearer idea of which direction you want to go... bike-wise!

I would also highly recommend a riding course from one of the local Safety Foundations. Look around.

If buying a Triumph :

1.) As Jamie noted, '09's and '10's have EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection). A very nice welcome to the 21st Century, and trouble free.
2.) Ask around, research around, and find a good dealer. Most, but not ALL are... good. A bad dealer can ruin the experience quickly. Get more than one recommendation, maybe from three people minimum. Visit a dealer and hang around for say an hour or so. You should get a pretty good picture from the overall atmosphere of the shop, how visiting Customers are treated / reacted with, and the attitude of the employee's.
3.) Don't buy a bike that has been highly modified. Try to find a stock one, maybe with aftermarket silencers (Arrow?) at the most. Stock = reliable.
4.) Low mileage is best. Remember that most Triumph's go in for an expensive service at 12,000 Miles (Valve Clearance, etc.) unless you are mechanically inclined, and can do such things yourself.

In the end, you might want to define what YOU are looking for in Motorcycling. Long trips? Daily commutes? Day tripper? Weekend racer?

If you look around, you'll see an infinite variety of Bikes... and riders, all seeking something we presume. What are YOU seeking? This decision may help to further define your first purchase bike style.

Most of all, Ride Safe!

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Re: what motorcycle to take ?

I would suggest you to go for Honda Deauville it is really an awesome and comfortable bike looks osome.

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